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myrtlemaneet
June 24th, 2009, 07:50 PM
I had no idea where to put this, sorry if it's the wrong spot. Is WWF as good as it looks? Is is true that it supports the seal hunt (:mad:)? Are they a good organisation to donate to?

Sevenseas
June 24th, 2009, 07:55 PM
I think it's bad.

http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=14196

myrtlemaneet
June 24th, 2009, 08:00 PM
I think it's bad.

http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=14196

Sucks how you can't trust anyone nowadays!
I wanted to do one of the wild animal adoptions, guess I'll have to find another organisation that does something similar.

lesleythegreate
June 24th, 2009, 11:01 PM
Oh my god, this is horrifying! I buy their shirts all the time because I love pandas and collect panda shirts! I honestly think I might throw up.

I donate to the ASPCA, but there's also the environmental defense fund, unless they are also killing poor animals :(

FitChick99
June 25th, 2009, 07:40 AM
[QUOTE=myrtlemaneet;2356484]Sucks how you can't trust anyone nowadays![QUOTE]

Wow, seriously! Their commercials always get me, and I have almost donated to them a few times. Glad I didn't.

myrtlemaneet
June 25th, 2009, 09:50 AM
Oh my god, this is horrifying! I buy their shirts all the time because I love pandas and collect panda shirts! I honestly think I might throw up.

I donate to the ASPCA, but there's also the environmental defense fund, unless they are also killing poor animals :(

I know :( I have a panda shirt I got at Delia's. It's really cute. I wanted a donation in my name to some sort of animal protection organisation, I guess I'll go with ASPCA or Humane Society.

Almeria
June 25th, 2009, 08:02 PM
What about WSPA? (World Society for the Protection of Animals) Or is there anything bad with them?
http://www.wspa-usa.org/index.cfm

paisleyjane
June 25th, 2009, 08:33 PM
That article about WWF supporting the seal hunt is from 2003, I wonder if it's still the case? I haven't googled it yet... but I'm on it :)

paisleyjane
June 25th, 2009, 08:43 PM
Yep - It's still in their FAQs that they are okay with seal hunting, even though it says "Last Updated 2004"... guess they still feel that way.

VeggieSquirrel
June 25th, 2009, 11:48 PM
That is completely deplorable!!

Seals are apparently not wildlife worth supporting and helping to them?

myrtlemaneet
June 26th, 2009, 01:24 PM
That is completely deplorable!!

Seals are apparently not wildlife worth supporting and helping to them?


Hypocrites!

jenni-anti-fur
July 5th, 2009, 08:00 PM
Hypocrites!

exactly!!

cjc5105
July 10th, 2009, 01:29 PM
this is what their website says:

"What WWF is Not!

WWF is not an animal welfare organization. We support the hunting and consumption of wild animals provided the harvesting does not threaten the long-term survival of wildlife populations. WWF has never opposed a sustainable seal hunt in northern or eastern Canada".

They clearly say they are not a welfare organization (ie such as P.E.T.A).

Don't get mad at them because you misunderstood what they do.

I'm not defending them. I'm just stating the obvious.

It would be different if they claimed to be a welfare organization, but then somehow discreetly supported the seal hunt. But they clearly state the truth, thus no one should be angry.

VeganTigress
July 10th, 2009, 01:39 PM
this is what their website says:

"What WWF is Not!

WWF is not an animal welfare organization. We support the hunting and consumption of wild animals provided the harvesting does not threaten the long-term survival of wildlife populations. WWF has never opposed a sustainable seal hunt in northern or eastern Canada".

They clearly say they are not a welfare organization (ie such as P.E.T.A).

Don't get mad at them because you misunderstood what they do.

I'm not defending them. I'm just stating the obvious.

It would be different if they claimed to be a welfare organization, but then somehow discreetly supported the seal hunt. But they clearly state the truth, thus no one should be angry.

As much as i hate to agree, it is true.

That being said they push the image of "saving animals" and all the work they do to help with that kind of thing. It would lead anyone to believe it is an animal care kind of charity.

Advertisment is everything...

I was actually looking at donating to them last night...LOL!... silly me...

Gregatron
July 27th, 2009, 10:49 PM
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InstantKarma
July 28th, 2009, 02:42 AM
Sucks how you can't trust anyone nowadays!
I wanted to do one of the wild animal adoptions, guess I'll have to find another organisation that does something similar.

The word to watch out for is "conservation."

Conservationists not only do not have an issue with hunting, but often promote it.

rosiem
July 28th, 2009, 01:52 PM
Sucks how you can't trust anyone nowadays!
I wanted to do one of the wild animal adoptions, guess I'll have to find another organisation that does something similar.

How about adopt-a-bat?

http://www.batcon.org/index.php/support-bci/adopt-a-bat.html

This is pretty much my favourite wildlife organization. And they are the good kind of conservation, not the 'let's kill animals!' types.

WWF life fund also discriminates greatly toward the cute and cuddly animals against the more important animals.

In the early days of Bat Conservation International, the founder asked WWF for a $9,000 grant so that they could protect bats. Mind you, we are talking about a group of animals with 1,2000 species. And bats are really important

I mean, just as an example, fruit bat activity is attributed to 95% of reforestation in the Amazon rainforests. No, that isn't a typo. 95% of all of the first pioneer plants to start growing in forested spots in the rainforests are due to bats pooping out fruit seeds.

I could go on and on and on, (I want to be a bat biologist, did you guess?) but anyway.

WWF's response to the request for money? "Sorry, we really don't have the funds to give out grants that large to anyone. We'd love to help, but we absolutely don't have the money."

A week later WWF held a press announcing they were giving a $150,000 grant to help pandas.

Liars.

AzulBlue0204
July 28th, 2009, 04:00 PM
Another organization to cross off my list.

Isnt there a website you could go to that lists "Vegan Friendly" Organizations? caringconsmer.com perhaps?
I'll check...

peace
July 29th, 2009, 02:43 PM
As much as i hate to agree, it is true.

That being said they push the image of "saving animals" and all the work they do to help with that kind of thing. It would lead anyone to believe it is an animal care kind of charity.

Good point. Cutesy images of animals are their bread-and-butter when it comes to private donations. Every Christmas they send out freebie greeting cards with syrupy-sweet drawings of baby animals. A popular donation option offers up a cuddly plush animal in exchange for a cash pledge. If people don't do their research, it's easy to see how they could be misled.

lesleythegreate
July 30th, 2009, 03:09 PM
Another organization to cross off my list.

Isnt there a website you could go to that lists "Vegan Friendly" Organizations? caringconsmer.com perhaps?
I'll check...



Here it is
http://www.caringconsumer.com/resources_charities.asp

nicolettebeach8
August 15th, 2009, 02:48 PM
I'll go with ASPCA or Humane Society.

I'd go with the ASPCA and NOT the Humane Society.

Here's just one reason why: http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?cat=9

vanahera
August 17th, 2009, 11:49 PM
The word to watch out for is "conservation."

Conservationists not only do not have an issue with hunting, but often promote it.

Yes.

I don't trust conservationists one bit. Which is why I get seriously annoyed whenever I see shows or commercials glorifying them. =/

Conservationists are usually hunters or people who support hunting.

*Star*Lass*
August 18th, 2009, 11:08 AM
The word to watch out for is "conservation."

Conservationists not only do not have an issue with hunting, but often promote it.

No.

That is a big fat generalisation.

I'm not saying that none of them do. Lots of them do. For example, some conservationists promote grey squirrel culls here in the UK. As much as i don't like it, they are doing it to protect our native red squirrel (what's left of it). On another note, conservationists urged the welsh government to reject a proposal for a badger cull in Wales last year.

They just have different aims... to protect biodiversity and maintain populations that are under threat, such as the red squirrel and badger. Their aim is not to protect or save the individual, but to protect the species.

I'm a conservationist that cares about both the species and the individual! I'm sure i'm not the only one.

peace
August 18th, 2009, 11:48 AM
I'd go with the ASPCA and NOT the Humane Society.

Here's just one reason why: http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?cat=9

If you are concerned about all animals, I'd take another look at the ASPCA's policies. The ASPCA considers eating meat a "personal choice" and serves slaughtered animals at its functions. They are essentially a dog-and-cat-only group. ASPCA Position Statements (http://www.aspca.org/about-us/policy-positions/)

I'd like to get some more nonbiased info on the HSUS issue. Similar charges were leveled against Best Friends, and when Best Friends clarified the issue it became apparent that the criticisms were misguided. HSUS has increased its work with ending dogfighting and supporting the rescue of pit bulls, including organizing what may have been the country's largest conference on rehabbing former fighting dogs. Indeed, three large images of pit bulls are on their homepage as I speak. The HSUS animal fighting page (http://www.hsus.org/acf/)is one of the most active on its site.