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inkie51
April 7th, 2009, 11:34 AM
Hypnotism is a very dangerous thing. Never allow anyone to hypnotize you or program you. Not even a trusted friend.

Hypnotism allows someone to control you and if you yield to them, it could completely ruin your life. As long as you do not yield your mind, a person trying to hypnotize you will not be successful.

Please do not allow yourself to be hypnotized or programmed by someone else.

Blobbenstein
April 7th, 2009, 11:40 AM
I was interested in hypnotism for a while, and read a book about it, and then looked at some hypnotism forums.
There was a woman who had hypnotherapy, and she said afterwards she felt disconnected, or distant, and this lasted years after having the treatment.

It is because problems don't really get resolved in hypnotherapy.

fadeaway1289
April 7th, 2009, 06:37 PM
My friend went to one of those group hypnotism weight loss seminars with her cousins. She said not only was it just a huge money scam but afterwards they all ended up going out to eat, ate a ton of fried foods and also saw a lot of other people at the restaurant that also attended the seminar.

I know thats not exactly the type of hypnotism you're talking about but I just thought I'd share that story.

hoodedclawjen
April 7th, 2009, 07:12 PM
i think its a pretty broad subject area. stage hypnotism and hypnotic regression and hypnotherapy are kinda different to each other, and the experience and affects depend on how sensitive the subject is, how skilled the therapist is, etc.

i think its very simplistic to say 'hypnotism is very dangerous'. so are drugs- when used under the wrong circumstances, by the wrong people. they also can do a lot of good- change and save lives.

i had a session of hypnotherapy in order to give up smoking, about 5 years ago. i was put into a pleasantly relaxed, mildly suggestive state, but certainly not a trance. i could have gotten out of the armchair and left at any point, and while the therapist was talking to me i remember thinking just that, i just didn't want to go anywhere- i wanted to listen to her talking to me about why i wanted to quit smoking, how much better i'd feel as a non-smoker, how i had the strength to accomplish my goal, etc. i was there to remind myself why i wanted to give up smoking, to get my self confidence and motivation and willpower mustered- basically i just needed a little boost and some re-inforcement, and thats what i got.

i didn't come out of the session a zombie, a psycho killer,or clucking like a chicken. i didn't lose any time, or feel any different physically or emotionally to how i have felt following an aromatherapy massage- relaxed, energised, centred, recharged. and i've never once smoked since. that doesn't mean i don't get the urge, or that the idea doesn't pop into m head, but because of my focused experience, i've got a little bit more positive reinforcement behind my continued choice to not smoke, which i can call upon when i need it.

i think that much of the inherant risk in stage hypnotism is that you'e making a rash decision, and putting yourself entirely into the hands of someone you don't know, who may well be very poorly trained, perhaps while you're a little intoxicated, and certainly not in an emotionally safe place. they don't know you, you don't know them- they're generally seeking to make you do embarrassing things for the amusement of others, and you're put deep under rather fast, pulled out again rather fast, and spun around a lot in between. i'd not go for that. but i have little problem with going to see someone again in the circumstances that i already have.

synergy
April 7th, 2009, 07:18 PM
Making blanket statements is a very dangerous thing. Never allow anyone to make blanket statements or stereotype. Not even a trusted friend.

Making blanket statements about something such as hypnotism allows someone to control you and if you yield to them, it could completely ruin your life. As long as you do not yield your mind, a person trying to convince you will not be successful.

OF course hypnotism can be dangerous. So can drinking water, breathing air or exercising.

Used appropriately and effectively, hypnotherapy can be very beneficial for all kinds of things. So can self hypnosis, hypnotic suggestion etc.

Can you share with us the experience you had that makes you so adamantly agains hypnotism in general?

Please do not allow yourself to be hypnotized or programmed by someone else.

hoodedclawjen
April 7th, 2009, 07:20 PM
Making blanket statements is a very dangerous thing. Never allow anyone to make blanket statements or stereotype. Not even a trusted friend.

Making blanket statements about something such as hypnotism allows someone to control you and if you yield to them, it could completely ruin your life. As long as you do not yield your mind, a person trying to convince you will not be successful.

OF course hypnotism can be dangerous. So can drinking water, breathing air or exercising.

Used appropriately and effectively, hypnotherapy can be very beneficial for all kinds of things. So can self hypnosis, hypnotic suggestion etc.

Can you share with us the experience you had that makes you so adamantly agains hypnotism in general?

Please do not allow yourself to be hypnotized or programmed by someone else.

ok you're getting a sticker for that one :D

Abbey
April 7th, 2009, 07:40 PM
I was hypnotized once at a show at my high school. It was only a light trance; either the hypnotist wasn't very good, or I had a stubborn mind, but I was aware of everything I was doing, while I was doing it. While under the hypnosis, I remember wondering to myself why I was doing the stupid things he was suggesting (riding a horse, miming shampooing my hair, etc); it just seemed to make sense to do them, and seemed easier to follow his suggestions than not. I also remember that I was having a lot of fun while under. I didn't (and don't) see the harm in that at all.

I don't know how effective hypnosis is for weight loss, quitting smoking, or other long-term behaviour modifications. But for a fun performance for an audience, it was great fun and I'd go again.

synergy
April 7th, 2009, 07:45 PM
ok you're getting a sticker for that one :D

I"ll PM you my address.

I also wanted to add,
I had some fantastic results listening to a weightloss hypnosis CD. You just put yourself in a relaxed state, and listen to suggestions about eating more heathily, drinking more water, exercising more and seeing your body as you want it to be. Positive thinking and visualization.

It may be a coincidence that I've lost 20 pounds since I started listening to it. It also may be a coincidence that my aunt quit smoking after 50 years of being a two pack a day smoker after seeing a hypnotherapist.

Digger
April 7th, 2009, 07:51 PM
I was hypnotized once at a show at my high school. It was only a light trance; either the hypnotist wasn't very good, or I had a stubborn mind, but I was aware of everything I was doing, while I was doing it.
I think that IS hypnosis, or at least my understanding of it. Every person I know who has been hypnotized on stage describes it a lot like daydreaming, and they too were fully conscious of their actions. But nonetheless they still acted out the suggestions made to them so the hypnotist was effective.

AussieShane
April 8th, 2009, 07:46 AM
neur-linguistic programming (NLP). It's a huge field with a very high failure to success ratio.

MrFalafel
April 8th, 2009, 09:29 AM
I've had great experiences with hypnotism and with NLP. I've also know a few others that have even more positive experiences than I have.

I highly recommend hypnotism and NLP to any and everyone. The trick is know the qualifications of the practitioner involved.

AussieShane
April 8th, 2009, 09:46 AM
I've had great experiences with hypnotism and with NLP. I've also know a few others that have even more positive experiences than I have.

I highly recommend hypnotism and NLP to any and everyone. The trick is know the qualifications of the practitioner involved.


what was the reason to why you took NLP ?

MrFalafel
April 8th, 2009, 10:10 AM
what was the reason to why you took NLP ?

Dealing with stress and grief from a life changing event. I's been extremely helpful.

I only learned about it as I have a friend who's now an NLP trainer for various police departments. He got into it after studying it as a university professor for many years. He told me all about how it works so I gave it a try. Very cool stuff and very effective (for me).

inkie51
April 10th, 2009, 02:27 PM
NO! Do not ever submit yourself to either hypnotism or NLP tactics. These "mind games" are not funny but I believe hyponotism to be extremely serious. I don't trust one person, not even a friend to do this to me. It could RUIN your whole life.

I have many friends but I would never submit my mind to any of them.

MrFalafel
April 10th, 2009, 04:32 PM
NO! Do not ever submit yourself to either hypnotism or NLP tactics. These "mind games" are not funny but I believe hyponotism to be extremely serious. I don't trust one person, not even a friend to do this to me. It could RUIN your whole life.

I have many friends but I would never submit my mind to any of them.

:lol: thanks for your concern but my experiences are all positive and I'll keep on with it should I require it and recommend it to my friends as well.

synergy
April 10th, 2009, 04:39 PM
NO! Do not ever submit yourself to either hypnotism or NLP tactics. These "mind games" are not funny but I believe hyponotism to be extremely serious. I don't trust one person, not even a friend to do this to me. It could RUIN your whole life.

I have many friends but I would never submit my mind to any of them.

I have started studying NLP and applying it to my life and it's helped me tremendously. What about it do you find dangerous?

Also, as I asked before, could you share with us why you feel hypnotism is so horrible? We'll be able to have a more valuable discussion if you can give us some background instead of just saying "no, it's bad".

Kiz
April 10th, 2009, 07:26 PM
NO! Do not ever submit yourself to either hypnotism or NLP tactics. These "mind games" are not funny but I believe hyponotism to be extremely serious. I don't trust one person, not even a friend to do this to me. It could RUIN your whole life.

I have many friends but I would never submit my mind to any of them.

You sound uninformed about what hypnosis is. Horror movies and books by Stephen King containing hypnotism are not the best place to get your information.

I've found a mild, self-hypnotic trance helps me wonderfully when hit with the insomnia stick. Very useful in fact, better than sleeping pills which I personally abhor. I trust myself fully not to hypnotise myself into robbing banks on my behalf and then blaming myself when the cops catch me.

jenni-anti-fur
April 11th, 2009, 04:07 AM
Making blanket statements is a very dangerous thing. Never allow anyone to make blanket statements or stereotype. Not even a trusted friend.

Making blanket statements about something such as hypnotism allows someone to control you and if you yield to them, it could completely ruin your life. As long as you do not yield your mind, a person trying to convince you will not be successful.

OF course hypnotism can be dangerous. So can drinking water, breathing air or exercising.

Used appropriately and effectively, hypnotherapy can be very beneficial for all kinds of things. So can self hypnosis, hypnotic suggestion etc.

Can you share with us the experience you had that makes you so adamantly agains hypnotism in general?

Please do not allow yourself to be hypnotized or programmed by someone else.

awesome...just awesome...

I have been hypnotized at a weight/food issue seminar to help me get a handle on my eating/eating disorder...and my binging and it helped me a bit...I also use the cds that were given to me after the session and they help alot too...so I believe its different for everyone and we shouldnt be making blanet statements that only apply to some and not all.