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Bunzz
February 18th, 2009, 01:12 PM
Before I go on, I'd like to point out that I am not a reality TV fan and I have not watched Jade's shows or read her books etc but I cannot shake a real sadness for events that are taking over this young woman's life. I don't know if it's because of her age, her sons or the sheer horror of cancer.

The worst thing was hearing a colleague at work say that what's happening is Karma and she gets what she deserves. Why? For being loudmouthed and ignorant? I can't believe the animosity of people in this world - maybe that's what saddens me.

Am I alone in feeling like this for someone I don't know?

xBree
February 18th, 2009, 01:26 PM
No I feel that way too.

There are actual groups on facebook and myspace that say she deserves to die, and celebrate it. This is so sick, she has two sons who are soon going to be motherless, and I just can't imagine how it must feel to have to say goodbye.

hoodedclawjen
February 18th, 2009, 01:29 PM
nope- not alone. i don't watch that stuff or read those kindsa books/magazines, and only have half an idea of who she is. but from what i have half noticed, it is definately sad to see someone pop up out of nowhere, get in out of their depths, go up and down and around a few times, then hit such a sad and painful end.

i think its easy for some people to be cold and flippant and opinionated about celebrities, cos they're not really 'real' people- they really don't know them at all, but they feel like they still own them cos they're part of their lives, and really think they do know them, and have the right to judge them, cos of what they see and read.

i don't anyone really deserves to get a horrible end like she's headed for, to deal with the emotional upheaval of knowing she'll not see her kids grow up, to be so judged and scorned and mocked- even if they did 'ask for it' by putting themselves in the limelight and trying to grab hold of a little something for themselves. no matter what horrible and malicious and devious stuff they've done- by accident, on purpose, whatever. i don't think it works like that- its too clear cut and cold and simplistic.

if karma is such an excellent judge and executioner of things, your co-worker will be getting a swiftkick up the arse at some point in the future for being so thoughtless and heartless with her words. i'm sure jade didn't know how everything would pan out, or make the best choices in her life, but nobody does. we're all feeling our way through life, and being cold and heartless about other peoples pain doesn't help smoothe the ride.

Pixelle
February 18th, 2009, 01:29 PM
I feel really bad for her. I watched her on celeb BBUK and the interaction between her and Shilpa Shetty was awful to watch, she was so threatened by her, but it was a slice of reality. That's how some people really are. She is a very ignorant woman, she's obviously had a tough upbringing and a hard life in general and it's taken it's toll.

Pirate Ferret
February 18th, 2009, 02:46 PM
I'm not a fan of the whole celebrity concept and I dont like jade goody particularly but i dont think she (or anyone) deserves this!
Most people i know are annoyed with the amount of publicity and how open she's being but I think its a good thing. I heard on the news that there were usually 2-3,000 daily pageviews on the cancer research site's ovarian cancer page. the day her news got announced there were 32,000 and now theres about 20,000. imagine how many lives she's indirectly saved by raising awareness and making it something can talk about

Diana
February 18th, 2009, 03:02 PM
I have no idea who this woman is, nor what she is famous for. But in the local rag, I read a small article about her which mentioned that she was dying and that she was now "making arrangements for her children". I felt so terribly sad for her and her family. Whoever she is, I can only feel compassion for her and this tragedy.

derwenna
February 18th, 2009, 03:24 PM
I feel sad for her even though I don't know her, although I did see the first Big Brother series she took part in so I kind of know who she is. I think it's just so unimaginable being told that you've only got months left to live, and how you'd feel or cope or what you'd do if that happened, and the fact that she's got two little sons and she knows she won't see them grow up just adds to the sadness of the whole thing. Of course she doesn't 'deserve' to have something so horrible happen to her, anyone who says that needs a swift kick up the arse at the very least.

Jon_Veggie
February 18th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Whilst I am certainly no fan of hers, or rather her 'media image', I certainly do not want to see her die such a horrible death at such a young age, especially as she has two young children.

Anyone who 'celebrates' someone dying from cancer is very sick indeed.

MrFalafel
February 19th, 2009, 04:19 AM
This whole thing is very interesting from a philosophical standpoint. Here we have a true nobody who became famous for being stupid and annoying. She earned large sums of money despite having no talents or making any meaningful contribution to society. She really was a parasite that fed on the lowest common denominator of human curiosity.

And now, she is making her situation public. Millions of people are now aware of the horrors of cancer. Her post chemo pictures are everywhere. Cancer is being brought to the front pages of newspapers for all to see. This has led to people getting checked out themselves (preventing other cancer victims), people are now more apt to contribute to cancer charities as the realitis of cancer can be seen in someone they know, even if figuratively.

Most celebrities that have cancer seem to run and hide from the media which is completely undrestandable. They die with very few people seeing the ravages of this terrible disease. This Jade Goody person, for all of her faults, is dying very publicly in front of us all and forcing us to look. So this parasitic nobody is now actually doing good for society. She's come full circle.

isowish
February 19th, 2009, 05:51 AM
Whilst I am certainly no fan of hers, or rather her 'media image', I certainly do not want to see her die such a horrible death at such a young age, especially as she has two young children.

Anyone who 'celebrates' someone dying from cancer is very sick indeed.

agreed.

Licence
February 19th, 2009, 07:48 AM
Although what she said on that ridiculous programme was obviously wrong, its interesting that no one said anything when Shilpa Shetty came out with racist comments against whites.

Also is giving money to cancer charities a good thing, when the vast majority of them carry out experiments on animals?

And anyone that feels any amount of joy no matter how small that this woman is dying from cancer is evil, plain and simple.

MrFalafel
February 19th, 2009, 07:53 AM
Although what she said on that ridiculous programme was obviously wrong, its interesting that no one said anything when Shilpa Shetty came out with racist comments against whites.

Also is giving money to cancer charities a good thing, when the vast majority of them carry out experiments on animals?

There are many 'support charities' that are aimed at providing care and financial support to families sticken with cancer that have nothing to do with animal testing.

Licence
February 19th, 2009, 08:28 AM
There are many 'support charities' that are aimed at providing care and financial support to families sticken with cancer that have nothing to do with animal testing.

Totally support those charities, but as I said, the majority of cancer charities that receive charitable donations support vivisection. All the big cancer charities do.

http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/CAMPAIGNS/experiments/ALL/281/

MrFalafel
February 19th, 2009, 08:50 AM
Totally support those charities, but as I said, the majority of cancer charities that receive charitable donations support vivisection. All the big cancer charities do.

http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/CAMPAIGNS/experiments/ALL/281/

Well, we can use the press and concern for Ms Goody's condition to discuss the wider issues of which cancer charities are best. In my own experience, Macmillan Cancer Support provide an amazing service for families that aren't in the public limelight and they do not test on animals.

stephles
February 19th, 2009, 07:29 PM
I'm so glad I saw this thread. Just yesterday I saw a note a friend of mine left on facebook, saying how sick he was of Jade Goody and the fact she's turned her illness into a "publicity circus". Another guy agreed saying she was making a mockery of anyone who had ever had cancer. I absolutely couldn't believe what I was reading. I left a number of responses, very similar to what has been said here, about raising awareness, providing a financial future for her sons, etc. There were some messages of support for Jade but this same guy kept saying he refused to change his opinion on her - that "she got cancer because she's a terrible person".

Awful, just awful. I removed all my messages eventually because I couldn't face seeing the stuff the anti-Jade people were saying. My thoughts are with her and her family.

vheogl
February 21st, 2009, 11:37 AM
I can't say I've ever liked Jade Goody and I don't particularly consider her a good person as such. But that doesn't mean she deserves death or to suffer and neither do those around her that love and care for her.

She is known for making a career out of publicity for being , well being no one really. She has no special skills, no talents, she's purely known for displaying her life out in the open. However, I have to say I wholeheartedly admire her for what she's done this time. Some people are asking when it goes too far, how much is too much when someone is dying, should it be shown publically and in this case I think yes it should. She has chosen to display her battle with us all, it's been her choice and it is the best choice she has ever made and the best thing she could have ever done. She may be doing it for her children but one great side effect of this is to make money she's had to display this terrible disease for everyone to see, to see the truth, the reality. Thousands die of cervical cancer, usually at a young age, they are often only known by those who know them but this public display of a cancer patient has given cancer, especially cervical and other cancers that attack the young, a face that they will never forget.

Miso Jace
February 27th, 2009, 09:58 AM
Whilst I am certainly no fan of hers, or rather her 'media image', I certainly do not want to see her die such a horrible death at such a young age, especially as she has two young children.

Anyone who 'celebrates' someone dying from cancer is very sick indeed.

ditto, i'm not into tv, even less reality tv, and from what i gathered i wouldn't be a fan of hers either, but someone saying she deserves to die is just messed up. ok she isn't a paragon of human existence, but who is?! all life is valuable, and hers & her family's loss will be as deep as anyone else's.

very sad indeed, i feel awful for her kids especially, i can't imagine what they must be going through right now.

*Star*Lass*
February 28th, 2009, 07:04 AM
I think what most people forget is that Jade had a terrible childhood (if you can even call it that). So, whilst i'm not a fan, i don't blame her for how she is.

The news she only has months left really left me in shock and scared. It's one of the worst situations i can imagine being in, and everytime i think about it, i just can't even imagine what it would be like. Despite how she comes across publicly, i don't doubt that she's a good mother, so i'm really sad for her kids.

I did, however, think that the recent advert with her in it (about her wedding photos in that magazine) was very strange...... "share the best day of my life". Fame to the very end?? She seems to be coping better than i would.

MrFalafel
March 1st, 2009, 03:50 AM
She's quite open about the fact that she is miking the media spotlight for as much money as she can from this in order to make sure her kids are well taken care of when she's gone. Can't fault her for that.

QueenBea
March 1st, 2009, 06:47 AM
Hello

I feel really sorry for anyone who has to go through such an awful ordeal.

I know it doesn't help but at least she is making money for her kids to have a good chance in life, many people don't get a chance to do and people are left to sort out the bills when they die.

Let's hope there is a fantastic after life ;)

*Star*Lass*
March 2nd, 2009, 10:13 AM
She's quite open about the fact that she is miking the media spotlight for as much money as she can from this in order to make sure her kids are well taken care of when she's gone. Can't fault her for that.

Yeh, which i thought was ok. But then when i saw the advert it did freak me out a bit. As someone said on tv the other day with regard to Jade, there comes a point where she should say "enough", and spend time with her family in peace. I really hope this media stuff doesn't go on and on until we actually see her on her death bed.

MrFalafel
March 2nd, 2009, 10:24 AM
Yeh, which i thought was ok. But then when i saw the advert it did freak me out a bit. As someone said on tv the other day with regard to Jade, there comes a point where she should say "enough", and spend time with her family in peace. I really hope this media stuff doesn't go on and on until we actually see her on her death bed.

I hear what you are saying but perhaps people can learn more about the process by seeing her on her deathbed...

In a way, making this public may be very empowering for those other 10s of thousands of people in similar circumstances. Do we really have to hide away from the public to die?

*Star*Lass*
March 2nd, 2009, 05:13 PM
I hear what you are saying but perhaps people can learn more about the process by seeing her on her deathbed...

In a way, making this public may be very empowering for those other 10s of thousands of people in similar circumstances. Do we really have to hide away from the public to die?

I never mentioned hiding. I was thinking more about the word 'dignified'. It's all very well dying in public. We've seen it before, like Jonny Kennedy (the boy whose skin fell off). But having greedy journalists recording you and having "ownership" of your death so that they can sell their magazines/papers :no: Yes, she wants the money, but there'll be plenty of profit in it for them. They're taking advantage of the fact she wants to raise money for her kids (although i've got no idea why they would need so much).

And i don't need to watch her die to know she's dying. In my opinion :)

TreeManEarthSteward
March 4th, 2009, 02:52 PM
They're taking advantage of the fact she wants to raise money for her kids (although i've got no idea why they would need so much).

Greedy media vultures, taking advantage down to the last grain of salt, yeah, absolutely. :yes: BUT its certain Goody invites/courts the media fulwell knowing they are vultures... Regardlessly, in other words she is accepting and making the best of their bad nature... (with really nothing to lose, except maybe some dignity -but the death part which seems possibly might happen-?- is obviously highly questionable as to money raised thru that).
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Why the kids would need so much is maybe *if they have amounts of cash remainding* after spending on unknown stuff, might be so the kids have it (a degree of wealth) they can give cathartic contribution to cancer causes/charities... so that they can feel less agrieved about their soon to be departed mother I wud guess. Just like the royal Harry & wots his name follow their deceased mother contributing to the causes she crusaded for...

TreeManEarthSteward
March 5th, 2009, 06:36 PM
http:P//isjadegoodydeadyet.com :rolleyes:

I ain't clicking on this, howbout you? Are you sick enough? << DON'T DO IT... I am only posting to reassure everybody of how sick and/or stupidly duh and tactless the internet is as a barrier to decency. If anyone really is SICKO, you need to take the P out of the url... And by doing that, it'll give ya time to think bout your conscience, if you have one... And decide WAIT, this is sick!!
You don't have to proove to yourself eh?
Unless maybe you are curiouser than death? (no starlass pun intended)