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Idhan
January 23rd, 2009, 03:11 AM
I've always kind of naïvely accepted the idea that Chicago is a real city. Much of the discussion in the Illinois forum revolves around Chicago, and the descriptions of the various vegetarian restaurants in the city certainly creates a vivid impression of their reality. Recently, though, I've been reading John Hodgman's Areas of My Expertise, and he's brought up some points about Chicago which are making me question my prior assumptions:


FOUR DUBIOUS FABLES OF CHICAGO

I live in New York City, yet I am surprised almost every day by the number of people here who want to talk about Chicago all the time.

These people tell me that they once passed near or through Chicago, and some claim to be living there, even as we speak. This is strange enough. But what really surprises me is how many of these self-appointed Chicago experts seem to believe that Chicago actually exists. Not as an idea or as an allegory. They really believe that the city stands there, in all its legendary green-rivered, fire-prone glory, and that once every 100 years, when it rises out of Lake Michigan, you can visit it.

Now, I understand why the concept of Chicago is so alluring. It has been sung to us, like a lullaby, by our culture in story and song for nearly as long as there has been an Illinois.

Most of the novels of Charles Dickens were set in a fictional Chicago so vividly realized that it truly did seem real. Who can forget Fagin's immortal line from Oliver Twist when instructing that eponymous orphan on the pickpocket's code: "They pull a knife," said Fagin, "you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital. You send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago Way."

For many years, Hugh Hefner presented Chicago as his snowy, rainy pleasure dome, before revealing his true location in Los Angeles, living in a hyperbaric tube. And most recently the musical Chicago was adapted to great acclaim for the screen under the title Uncle Buck.

Undoubtedly there is something in us that needs Chicago as an idea: a dream as fanciful as the notion of an elevated train. But when you attempt to bring the train to ground, to put it on a map and say this exists, it is not merely insane, it threatens to make what is magical merely banal.

So perhaps it would be wise at this point to review what we know about Chicago. The fables, of course, are numerous and varied...

1. Depending on whom you believe, Chicago first appeared to either American soldiers stationed at Fort Dearborn, or a Haitian fur trapper named Jean-Baptiste Point du Sable. It was 1772 when Du Sable supposedly saw the city rise out of the lake, named it Eschikagou, and founded a fur-trading settlement there, right in the shadow of the Sears Tower.

2. In 1892, word spread of a fantastic "Columbian Exposition," to be held in Chicago, a glowing white city-within-a-city built in anticipation of the glorious twentieth century to come: a carefree future of civic corruption, gang rule, and innovative public housing. Twenty-seven million people, a quarter of the population of America, left their homes to visit the exposition. They were never heard from again.

Still, the exposition provoked so much heated discussion that New York Sun editor Charles Dana legendarily dubbed Chicago "The Windy City." This is, of course, a misremembering of Dana's original wording, which was "Blow Town." But in fact the New York Sun did not even start publishing until 2002, and one now wonders if Mr. Dana even existed.

3. Then, in 1900, it is said that the Chicago River actually reversed direction. Some accounts say that this was followed by a hailstorm of snakes and that the river turned bloodred in honor of St. Patrick. In any case, I say: creepy and improbable.

(Which, by the way, will be the title of my new reality television program about human oddities and unusual stunts, each week featuring clips of me having dinner with a man sporting a beard of bees: Creepy and Improbable.)

4. The poet and explorer Carl Sandburg asserted in his poem "Chicago" that the city was populated by half-naked, white-toothed, magnetic dog-men who had enormous shoulders. At first it was believed that Sandburg was merely a dope fiend. Later, it would be learned that he was in fact speaking of Omaha. Also, he didn't exist either.

Time and again, the Chicago-is-real theory simply does not stand up to scrutiny. There are no man-eating vines on the wall of Wrigley Field. No Al Capone. No John Wayne Gacy. These are stories invented to frighten children.

This is not to say there are not Chicagoans. But I would suggest that they are a nomadic people, whose lost home exists only in their minds, and in the glowing crystal memory cells they all carry in the palms of their hands: a great idea of a second city, lit with life and love, reasonable drink prices at cool bars, and, of course, blocks and blocks of bright and devastating fire.

What do you think? Is Chicago actually real?

jenni-anti-fur
January 23rd, 2009, 03:27 AM
bigg YESS Chicago is real....I live in the Burbs of Chicago and happen to go to the city from time to time...LOL...so yes it does exist is real and a load of fun:)

peace love and good karma

jenn

ForestGlade34
January 23rd, 2009, 09:17 AM
bigg YESS Chicago is real....I live in the Burbs of Chicago and happen to go to the city from time to time...LOL...so yes it does exist is real and a load of fun:)

peace love and good karma

jenn

I can vouch for that fact jenni lives in chicago, but only because she just said so! :lol: and that ultimately means chicago does exist - as a pizza. :lol:

Quinoa
January 23rd, 2009, 09:41 AM
What do you think? Is Chicago actually real?
No, it does not exist.
Obviously, Chicago is the American Bielefeld. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld_Conspiracy)

cstadt
January 23rd, 2009, 10:00 AM
I love Chicago. New York is alright, but if I decide not to move to Canada or if I need to stay in the states before I go I'd live in Chicago or the surrounding area.

jenni-anti-fur
January 23rd, 2009, 05:45 PM
I can vouch for that fact jenni lives in chicago, but only because she just said so! :lol: and that ultimately means chicago does exist - as a pizza. :lol:

LOL too funny:):pibo::rockon:....and OMG OMG the pizza....the awesomest ever!!!!!....My very close friend Bryan live in New York and we always have the pizza wars....lol....but in my never to be humble and unbiased opinion...LOL....Chicagos pizza is sooooo much better!!

peace love and awesome vegan pizza

jenn

Doktormartini
January 24th, 2009, 01:38 AM
bigg YESS Chicago is real....I live in the Burbs of Chicago and happen to go to the city from time to time...LOL...so yes it does exist is real and a load of fun:)

peace love and good karma

jenn
wait where do you live? I live like an hour from Chi-town!

ForestGlade34
January 24th, 2009, 02:45 PM
No, it does not exist.
Obviously, Chicago is the American Bielefeld. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld_Conspiracy)

For curiously interested people into knowing what this german geographic is.... I can find and see easily on google maps that its a real place situated between Dortmund and Hannover. but has had a lot of hocus pocus said about it. which is some kind of satire (a joke conspiracy) according to Quinoa's wiki link.

jenni-anti-fur
January 24th, 2009, 04:08 PM
[QUOTE=ForestGlade34;2203674]For curiously interested people into knowing what this german geographic is.... I can find and see easily on google maps that its a real place situated between Dortmund and Hannover. but has had a lot of hocus pocus said about it. which is some kind of satire (a joke conspiracy) according to Quinoa's wiki link.[/QUOTE

Thanx sooo much for this info....its much appreciated and I am very intrested in this as I have never heard of this before.

peace love and happy weekend

Puppet Master
January 24th, 2009, 05:55 PM
I was in Chicago when they were filming The Dark Night.
And my uncle lives there.

It exists. x3

iamme16
June 19th, 2009, 12:58 PM
Yeah, Chicago exists. During a feild trip we got a bit lost there.

Fromper
June 19th, 2009, 01:52 PM
I used to live there, and I'm still not convinced it exists! That whole period of my life is kinda hazy...

--Fromper
:juggle:

jenni-anti-fur
June 19th, 2009, 11:22 PM
Yeah It exists...I was there last week and it sure felt real...lol:rockon:

Pirate Huntress
October 13th, 2009, 12:56 AM
I hope so, or I don't know what city I'm living in. :p